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September 18, 2008

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John Ross

Well done, sir. It was informative and entertaining. Kudos.

O'YesWeWill

The second person really wasn't a hacker.
You do know that.
Criminal trespasser but no hacking was involver to get information from a message board and wrongly log into someone elses account.

dmo

@John: Thanks, I think the little extra the awesome photoshop images add is really worth it :)

@O'YesWeWill: Thanks for the comment. You're right, I was using "hacker" to refer to the person that gained illicit access to the account, rather than the person that initially gained the account information. Although, in this case, the first person didn't really do any "actual hacking" either. According to another post on 4chan the hacker used Google, the USPS web site and Wikipedia to find the answers to Palin's security questions for Yahoo's "Forgot Password" feature. Definitely more hacking than a person that just finds the username/password, but still not much "traditional" hacking.

joeyd

Interesting comment by O'YesWeWill. Johnny Long, actually runs a training called Non technical hacking. I am not certain of the exact title but non-technical is definitely the adjective he uses to explain 'hacking'. The Tiger Team series on Tru TV also uses social engineering attacks to gain network information. Both of these sources (hard to argue with Johnny Long's street creds)believe that non-technical information acquisition that enables the finder to access a network or computer is hacking. I think that the blog author's expansion of the definition of hacking to include any means by which the access information is gained is more accurate than the 'old speak' narrow definition of having to perform keyboard magic. I would propose that under the old definition nmap and good old fashioned techniques of typing in pet's names and birthdays are not hacking either. With the increasing ubiquitous factor of such easy information acquisition (both technical and non) is anyone really hacking anymore?

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